“The two things you’re not supposed to talk about are politics and religion. But if you don’t talk about those things, what are we even doing?”

Former evangelical pastor Brian Recker is here to share his lived experience with modern Christianity, Christian Nationalism, and why maybe Hell isn’t what we thought it was.

Brian shares his experiences transitioning from a fundamentalist background to becoming an evangelical pastor, and the turning points he faced within the church, especially during the first election of Donald Trump.

We chat about the cost of linking faith with the fear of Hell and the necessity of engaging with marginalized communities like Jesus did. Brian explains why we should consider divesting from harmful systems and instead embrace a spirituality rooted in love and empathy rather than fear and exclusion.

This chat is not just for Christians but for anyone living today so don’t miss it, friend!