What He Said. Alex Tells ALL!

What He Said. Alex Tells ALL!

What He Said. Alex Tells ALL!

Friends, you are in for an incredibly special chat today. As you know, I’ve been in a season of starting over after a 12 year marriage. We’ve talked about different parts of that starting over journey in previous episodes but today, you get to meet my new misterfella, Alex.

Yes, love has returned and it’s changed my life so I’m so excited to introduce you to Alex!

We’re answering all the questions you’ve been sending me on Instagram – from the story of how we met to dating with kids to dating someone who makes more money than you, we’re covering it all!

I can’t wait to hear what you think of this chat! Let me know on instagram @NicoleWalters.

Thanks for being here friend!

Read the transcript for this episode HERE.

 

Nicole:

Hey friends, so I don’t know if you can hear the smile s slash giggle in my voice, if you will. This is a very, incredibly special chat that we’re having. And I will say that, you know, it’s still clean and polite and all that stuff, but we will be talking about relationship things that are of the adult persuasion, and frankly, I have a guest that I have no idea what they’re gonna say. So it’s going to be exciting, it’s going to be fun, but just in case you got some tiny ears in the room, this may be a headphone chat.

So, friends, as you know, I have been on quite the journey over the past two years, particularly around starting over in a relationship. I was married for 12 years, and separated and began the divorce journey two years ago. And now I am hardly on the other side of it. Who knows if you ever really are, but I am in love. And now that love has returned, it has changed my life. And as you know, I’ve shared all about how I’ve been on the healing journey and how I met someone new and I’ve shared a little bit about who they are. And if you follow me around social media on Instagram at NicoleWalters, you had an opportunity to experience the big reveal, if you will, where I shared his name. And I am so excited because today I actually get to introduce you to him. And he’s joining us for our chat. So if you’re just following along, I am so excited for you to meet my misterfella, Alex.

Alex:

Hello.

Nicole:

Hi, Alex. I’m glad you’re here today. Hi. Is it weird for me to call you Alex on the thing?

Alex:

That’s my name.

Nicole:

But it’s just we always talked about how there’s a thing, you know, in relationships. You don’t call the person by their name name.

Alex:

I mean, it’s true, but we can’t be on here like, Baby this, baby that. .

Nicole:

No. Yeah, we can’t be unless we’re having a fight. BABE.

Alex:

Then it’s Alex.

Nicole:

Alex, okay, enough cuteness. Okay, so no, y’all, we are excited to chat with you. Because I had so much feedback and so many people in the DMs who are like, what? Plot twist! Who is this guy, and we have news to share. So before we get to the news, I wanted to start off by, you guys have heard my story of how we met, our first date, all the things, and I wanted to give you a chance to hear from him. So I’m going to interview this fella. I have no idea. Literally no idea what to say. He goes rogue. So,

Alex:

I’ll try to keep it. Keep it keep it, keep it together.

Nicole:

Your laughs make me uncomfortable. I know what I mean. I know don’t say I know that’s uncomfortable. I’m like deep. I’m like What is he about to say? So I’m going to interview him so that you guys can meet him and then we’re going to do a couple of cute questions. We’ll see how that goes. You know those cheesy things that people do but you know so you guys can learn a little bit more about how I’ve managed to land this fella. And then of course, we will tell you our big news. So the first thing, people always want to know how we met. And what’s interesting was when I started talking about you, and people were trying to kind of like figure out who you were on social media. I told them as one of those sort of many clues that they’d already met you. And plot twist of the year if you guys have been following along on the podcast, Alex was a guest earlier in the season.

Alex:

Yeah, I was on earlier in the season. And that was really fun.

Nicole:

It was really fun. And what you guys may not know was at that time we were already dating. That’s right into dating and produce right now. It’s like, all these things. So, um, so yeah, so we were already dating we, how many dates was it by then? It wasn’t a lot it was We’d only been together for three months, two months ish, something, something like that. Something like that. And so I would say it’s a couple of dates.

On our first day, I described in detail how I wasn’t sure when I first came in. I was like, I don’t know, if I’m feeling it. I didn’t even really feel like being on a date and I have like the best energy. And then I almost left in the middle of it. But whenever I tell you about that, you said that you didn’t feel that energy at all.

Alex:

Not at all. Not at all. Because when we were on a first date, I like the vibes were good. I mean, maybe just because you’re Nicole Walters, you’re just such a good speaker. And your energy is always so positive. You’re delightful. So on this side of things, I was like, this dates going great, like we’re in good conversation. There’s not a dead moment. Yeah.

Nicole:

Okay, so let’s go. Let’s go back to move forward. So I always told everyone that I wasn’t looking for anyone, like I went out in the dating pool. I was like, oh, there’s pee in the water. And then I came back and I was like, I’m not doing this. And then I kind of like started tiptoeing back in. And I mentioned that I was online, and I was kind of looking around. But nothing really committed, like date here, date there, but right. What about you? I don’t, I mean, we met online, right? Like, that was kind of our initial thing, but we didn’t spend a lot of time there. So what was it like for you? Were you online looking for someone?

Alex:

So um, yeah. I wasn’t really looking for someone per se. I mean, I was just, you know, trying to see what was out there again, you know.

Nicole:

What do you mean again?

Alex:

Well, I mean, I was in something. I was getting out of something that I was in for, I don’t know, year and a half ish. And then once I was out of that, then I was like, Okay, let me kind of read date or let me relook what’s out there and see so I got on originally got on Tinder.

Nicole:

Y’all should see right now. He looks like he is sweating bullets. Are you nervous?

Alex:

No, no, no. So originally, so originally, I got Tinder not Tinder. Yeah, originally got back on Tinder because I don’t know what to use for y’all. Well, if you don’t remember, I was on Tinder. I was with somebody for years. For about five years.

Nicole:

You’re a serial monogamist, love a relationship.

Alex:

I was with somebody for about five years and I met her on Tinder.

Nicole:

No, you didn’t. I didn’t know that. Yeah. Oh, I didn’t even know people use Tinder like that.

Alex:

Well, that was when it was new and cool.

Nicole:

I don’t know about that. Tinder to me is like the Walmart to the target. Like I can’t Tinder I can’t I feel like I feel like it’s for the young folk that are looking for a particular situation that I don’t have the flexibility for.

Alex:

That’s what it is now. It is now and I didn’t know like there’s nothing going on in Tinder.

Nicole:

And so Oh, really? It’s not I know. It’s not really on Tinder any. So I don’t know. But everything isn’t aren’t all the apps kind of like Tinder now they all work differently. Oh, I thought they were all like if they have swipe left or swipe right. That’s what Tinder is.

Alex:

No, they all work differently, which is why then I talked to my buddy and he said that he had success some success on Bumble and that he had met somebody he like, loves and is really into and stuff.

Nicole:

Is he still with that person?

Alex:

I think he is.

Nicole:

Oh, find out!

Alex:

And I was like, You know what, let me give Bumble a try. And Bumble works differently because the male cannot initiate the conversation. It’s the female that has to start it.

Alex:

That’s what I liked. It was like I really,

Nicole:

Oh you liked that!

Alex:

Oh, it made my job so much easier. Interesting. I never know how to start.

Nicole:

Oh, really? Awkward. You’re so extrovert. I’m surprised that you say that.

Alex:

Yeah it’s like what do you say?

Nicole:

That’s so funny. What’s weird about that is that I know that when I got onto Bumble, I liked having the conversation but the number one reaction I got from anyone that I like was like, oh, maybe I’ll say something to this person was, Oh, you didn’t just say like, Hi. Or what are you? Why D which means what are you doing? That’s what the youth say.

Alex:

It’s not It’s what you’re doing. Oh, it’s like what you’re doing.

Nicole:

I thought it was like, What are you doing? Yeah. See, that’s I mean to do it. I’m not that hip. So, but yeah, when you got my message, and you were like, she’s a catch.

Alex:

Immediately, yes. I saw your first, I was like, I want to marry that girl.

Nicole:

Aww. You’re like, no that’s not the move. Okay, so what happened?

Alex:

But, yeah, I got your message. And I clearly think you’re an extroverted person. You seem fun. Your pictures, you know.

Nicole:

What did I say? Guys? Let me see. Let me do you still have the app?

Alex:

Oh, my God. No, I do. Oh, did you know that?

Nicole:

I just didn’t delete it. Let me see if I even have it. I remember that our first message was that I reached out to and I just said something like, Hey, so I just moved here. And, you know, I’m loving living in LA. But, you know, just making friends are kind of crazy. And I see that we matched. So what are you into the standard? I think I said what are the standard questions people say like, where are you in the city? Because that can break or break a friendship.

Alex:

Yeah. And where’s your favorite taco? Where’s your favorite taco spot? When’s the last time that you had rain? Because you need it?

Nicole:

Right. Yeah, like typical California things. Like I’m a total nerd, but you responded to it?

Alex:

Yeah, I did. I did. Because I like banter. And I feel like we have good banter. And that’s, like, always a great thing. But it was like, right away. You know, it just felt immediate, that we had that. And that was really cool. And then fast forwarding, you know, we went on our first date.

Nicole:

Pretty quickly. I wouldn’t say that we spent a lot of time talking. And I think this is important for those you guys who are trying to wonder how dating goes like, we didn’t spend…

Alex:

Well, when you first met, especially because when you first sent me my message I had COVID.

Nicole:

Yeah. And I was I was not trying. I was like, I’m trying to do this, right.

Alex:

We matched and you were like, you trying to hang out. And then I was like, um, I’d love to, but like, I got COVID.

Nicole:

Yeah. And I was like, Okay.

Alex:

And then I was trying to like push conversations. I was like, I gotta push conversation through like the next 10 days through quarantine, so you have momentum by the time we see each other.

Nicole:

Because you don’t want me to fall off.

Alex:

I don’t want you to fall off. Oh, yeah, I wanted to try to keep it going. And so anyway, when we went on our first date, and we got sushi, and it was just kind of like a halfway point between where we were. And it just, it was just a really good date, I had good feelings about it. I know you clearly seem to have different thoughts.

Nicole:

So just to be clear to your face. It’s not that I might fit your face, like you know, like, to your face and in front of my friends and everything. It’s not that I didn’t like you. I just You were so different. I’ve said this, like all my girlfriends are saying now they heard me say this already. Like I already said that I wasn’t sure about an extrovert. You know what I mean? Like, I just wasn’t sure about someone who’s extroverted. I wasn’t sure about someone you were just so different from I been striking out because honestly, I was dating people who were like my ex, you know, like, people were introverted, people who were quiet people who were, you know, just had a different personality, you know, because I felt that that was what I needed.

But that didn’t really make sense. If, you know, a struck out there. Right. So when I you just seemed like a lot to me. And I was like, I think that the both of us would be too much.

Alex:

I am a lot, you’re not wrong.

Nicole:

That’s true, too. You know, and I just didn’t know if that would work. You know, I don’t know, but our a lot-ness matches in the right areas.

Alex:

Yeah, it does. So yeah, I mean, it was just like, good conversation. And it went really well. And then, I mean, after that date, then we spent the next three days.

Nicole:

Well, that will first date. I think. When we parted ways.

Alex:

We parted ways. And then you texted me on the way home.

Nicole:

Oh, oh, we’re saying? Oh, yeah.

Alex:

Oh, yeah. We’re saying Oh, my God, because it went cuz you texted me on the way home. You finally peaced out and then and then you text me on the way home. I was like, Oh, she liked me.

Nicole:

So what I said just so you guys all know because he’s making it seem like a thing. It was a thing. It was a thing, so we parted ways. And I’ll just be honest, like, like he gave me a kiss. And I was like, huh, like I felt like a little thing, I guess I don’t know. And when I was driving home, I was like, how weird is that? Like, just because…

Alex:

You said I didn’t expect that.

Nicole:

That’s what I texted you. I said, I didn’t expect that. Like it just caught me off guard and I didn’t expect it.

Alex:

And I felt the same thing. And it also caught me off guard, because I wasn’t really looking for you know, anything, either. I was like, let me go see what’s up with her. Yeah, you know. And then after that, it was the next three days. We talked on the phone for six hours.

Nicole:

It was literally it was that night like, I like we got back to the like, I think he checked to see if it got at home or something like that. We talked for hours. And I was like, yeah, and then we stayed up until probably like, 3am-4am. Yeah.

Alex:

The next two days. Same thing. Same thing. Yeah. And I was like, you know, it’s definitely may be different for you because you’re a good talker. But I’m a pretty decent talker, too. Like, you don’t mean it’s a rare thing when you can do have conversations go for six hours.

Nicole:

Yeah. Well, and it didn’t feel like that.

Alex:

It didn’t feel like that. And it was again, no dead space. It was just fun. It was just like all this thing. I was like, what is happening here?

Nicole:

Yeah. Okay, so what were you telling your friends while this was happening?

Alex:

Um, I was telling my friends while I was telling my roommate at the time. Yeah. Shout out Matt. What’s up, bro?

Nicole:

What happened?

Alex:

While I was telling him that I just like met this amazing girl. And it went so well. And I was like, I like it was like after the first day, or the second time we got off the phone. And I was just like, I’m gonna be with this girl. I was like, I’m gonna make sure you know, I’m gonna do everything I can. You’re like, I’m gonna be with this girl, I like her.

Nicole:

That’s very sweet. Y’all just let you know. So just a little side note, he had no idea who I was like.

Alex:

Oh, no clue. I remember having a conversation. messaging that was like, she said she did something in entertainment.

Nicole:

Yeah. Yeah, I was like, I’m kind of an entertainment. Like, I’m in the industry. You’re in the industry. That doesn’t mean anything in LA.

Alex:

Nothing. Yeah, I was like, Well, what part of the industry and I was like, I remember saying something cheesy, like, so cheesy. I was like, with a smile like that you should be on TV. And little bit and little did I know.

Nicole:

She’s like, Oh, I was like, I do that sometimes.

Alex:

I’m like, Who are you?

Nicole:

Yeah. And I was like, Well, you know, I work in finance. And I have like a, you know, business. I just kind of kind of left it at that.

Alex:

I mean, for weeks. Yeah.

Nicole:

I know, you were like, what’s your Instagram? And I was like, I don’t really do social.

Alex:

I didn’t even have her on Instagram. I had the couple pictures on Bumble.

Nicole:

Yeah, like, was that weird for you?

Alex:

It was weird. I mean, I was like, clearly you did something cool. I didn’t know what it was right.

Nicole:

You know what’s weird. It’s because one being in LA, you just want to be mindful. Because everyone also, the other issue I had with you was the fact that you’re in the industry. You know, like, I was like, I don’t know, if I want to be with someone who is a professional musician, and works in, you know, I mean, you work on movies, you work on albums, you know, and I just, you have to be so careful, you know, to make sure that people aren’t going to think because that you’re going to leverage your relationship. You know, like, I wanted someone who, I wasn’t looking for anything serious, you know, but I did want to make sure that I was with someone that I could have a good time with and feel safe. You know?

Alex:

Right. And well, that’s always been my thing. I mean, ever since high school, too, is that like, I don’t really care who you are. It’s like, if you’re cool, you’re cool. And if you’re not, and, you know, I’ve met plenty of connected people.

Nicole:

It’s such a non-thing for you. And just, absolutely, I just didn’t know. And also, you’re a local, so like you grew up here. So literally, you’re not affected by any of the things but all that and also you have your own career in your own right. I think that’s the other part too, is like, I didn’t realize that sometimes being with someone who is in your industry actually works really well. Like it seems it works really well for us.

Alex:

Yeah, because neither of us have conventional schedules. And so it’s like it says we don’t have a nine to five. It’s like we do get to spend. I mean, as busy as we are, we do get to spend an odd amount of time together.

Nicole:

That is true, like hours a day. Like I think more than most couples because it’s not like that nine to five situation.

Alex:

We’re still working doing our thing.

Nicole:

Yeah, but then again, the trade off is if you’re on tour, and I’m on a speaking gig like we could be apart for a week or two weeks or whatever else. I mean, I guess it’s kind of it probably evens out, honestly.

Alex:

I guess I guess.

Nicole:

Yeah, so fast forward. When did you know after how many dates, did you know, okay, I want her to be my girlfriend or we’re doing a thing for real. I mean, you said he knew on the first thingy.

Alex:

Well, I knew I knew I wanted to be like with you. You know, I was definitely in denial a little bit.

Nicole:

No not, denial?

Alex:

I don’t know what the word is like. I guess a little resistant.

Nicole:

Why were you resistant?

Alex:

Well, because I guess after my last thing, I was like, there was part of me where I was like, I really like this girl. I want to like be with her. And I want to see what happens here. And then there was the other side of me that was like, you know, I was in something not that long ago. And I was like, I want to be single for three years. Yeah. So just do my thing. Say do my thing and hustle and work really hard for sure. focused and you know, all that stuff. And but it just developed into what it developed into.

Nicole:

Well, let’s talk about that. So at what point are you like,

Alex:

Tell me more about that!

Nicole:

Stop acting like you know me So at what point were you like, okay, that’s me, my girlfriend?

Alex:

I forgot how long into when I asked you, I forgot to I don’t know, I think it might have been like a month?

Nicole:

Yeah, it was probably around then.

Alex:

I think we’d like dated like, pretty consistently for like a month. And then I asked you like that party.

Nicole: Yeah.

Alex:

Yeah, I was at a party and then just had a moment alone. Yeah, I officially asked you, pop that question.

Nicole:

Gosh, yeah, it wasn’t that question Yeah, okay. And when you asked me to be your girlfriend, were you thinking, just sort of okay, she’s just gonna be my girlfriend for a while, like or because I you know, for my friends who are listening, I didn’t grow up where you like, have my parents are African very traditional. You don’t have dating and you don’t do that. The person you bring home to meet your parents, that’d be the person you gonna marry, it’s like that.

So, I mean, I pretty much never dated anyone for longer than six months, maybe, you know, before it was either not a thing at all, or I married them. The only two boyfriends ever had one of them. Not with the other one I married right and stayed with her for 12 years, you know? So, for you, you know, like, when you ask someone to and this is just me. I’m just asking a general question. When you are asking someone to be your girlfriend, what were what was your intention behind that? Because it was so new. Like, I was still I think back to that time. There’s so much you still didn’t know.

Alex:

I’m sure. But like, I wouldn’t have asked you that unless I had intentions to like, be with you. Okay, and just you.

Nicole:

I appreciate your intention.

Alex:

That was my intention.

Nicole:

I appreciate your attention. Received.

Alex:

Received. Yes, good.

Nicole:

So fast forward. We’ve not been together for a year ish. And it’s been good. I’d like to think. Yeah, you can. Nodding guys. That pause was really long. He was nodding I swear. Oh, my gosh, but a lots happened to me. It’s been amazing.

Alex:

No, it’s been amazing. It has been an eventful year.

Nicole:

It has, so much has happened. I mean, I think that I guess I’ll ask pretty honestly, what’s it like dating someone who has an ex from divorce? You know what I mean? I’ve got that’s one element. What’s that like for you? Because there are a lot of devotees out there who are like, how do they find their young hot tenderoni?

Alex:

Is that what I am?

Nicole:

Yes tenderoni. Y’all, for the aunties out there, he doesn’t even understand that reference. Bless his heart. Go ahead.

Alex:

What’s that like? I mean, it definitely presents its difficulties.

Nicole:

Challenges, sure.

Alex:

It’s, it’s weird. It’s not hard on me. It’s hard on me because it’s hard on you. You know what I mean? And I hate seeing how the whole process and how it affects you. And in turn that affects me more than anything.

Nicole: Sure.

Alex:

You know what I mean? Like, I don’t really care as much that you’re going through a divorce. I mean, I remember when you told me about it. I was like, like, hey, yeah, you actually told me what was going. I was like, okay, yeah, you literally, like you could have just told me.

Nicole:

Yeah, because it was so complex. It was just, I mean, there’s even a level and I’ve talked about it on it of like acceptance that you have to go through yourself. And it’s hard to say because divorce, I think has such a feeling of rejection attached to it. And here I am, you know, I found somebody that I really want and that seems really want me and I’m coming off of something where I wasn’t wanted, you know, and so it’s really hard to say out loud, hey, by the way, like you’re taking something that someone cast off like, I hope you’re okay with that. You know what I mean? And so it was it was it’s hard to say that out loud and I do appreciate that you were so not just understanding about it, you’re pretty enthusiastic about like so I’m gonna be first in line then Right? That’s what’s happening right now. Like that’s the energy you’ve always treated me with like, Yay for me, you know, I don’t need you out there. I appreciate that. But, ya know, that was that was tough and it’s hard to hear that it’s hard for you, but…

Alex:

Yeah, when I see how the whole process affects you, you know, you get down or stressed or whatever it is,

Nicole:

Yeah, divorce is hard.

Alex:

You know, and I love you so much. So I don’t want to see you in pain or, you know, dealing with stuff.

Nicole:

I’m glad that you’re able to help with that. Yeah, thanks. And then, also, obviously, I’m a mom, and I have so many, you know, friends that are moms or, you know, have other attachments and things of that sort that they’re like, oh my gosh, no one’s gonna want me because of this. So what’s that like, for you? You know, Is that where you can be honest, you know, like, I know, we’ve talked about it, but you know, I think people need to hear what is it really like for you?

Alex:

Sure. Okay, so when you told me about how they came to be in your life, I mean, obviously, I was like, who are you? Like, you’re this amazing person, like all this stuff? Like who does that? You know, like, who does all that?

Nicole:

I am strange.

Alex:

Nobody does that So, but it was amazing. And so, being totally honest, on this side of things, you know, stepping into a situation? Yeah.

Nicole:

Like, did you ever think you would date someone who had children?

Alex:

Oh, God, absolutely not.

Nicole:

Had you ever? No?

Alex:

No, I always said that I wouldn’t.

Nicole:

So you outright were like, that’s not something I want.

Alex:

Right, it was just like, I do not want to date somebody with kids. I’m not ready to step into that role. Like, you know, like a stepdad roll like whatever it may be sure. I wasn’t really ready. But I think there was some comfort in the fact that they’re like, older.

Nicole:

Yeah, that’s true. It was easier to understand what you were coming into, because they were fully formed in a way, I guess, you know.

Alex:

Yes, they’re fully formed. A couple of them are out of the house.

Nicole:

That’s true. It’s not like, so when I say three kids, it’s true. Or you’re not walking into three kids. But I do want all my friends who are listening to understand that, I want you to know that my situation has its own levels of complexity. So if you’re one of you know, my friends who’s on here saying, Well, I have three kids under the age of six, who’s gonna take me. Somebody will take you as you are, because I have a very complex situation and bless it, Alex still takes it.

Alex:

And I have, I mean, I have friends who have married women with two previous kids or three, or like, whatever it may be, because they just love that person. So it’s totally possible, you know, different strokes for different folks, you know, whatever. But, um, for me, in this particular situation, it just did make it easier. That couple were out of the house. And then there’s Ally who Yeah, 11 and she’s so awesome.

Nicole:

She is.

Alex:

She’s the best, Ally is like the best. She’s so funny. And she’s smart. And she’s like witty and we can like talk trash.

Nicole:

Yeah, you guys have your own angle, and it’s really cool. And you’re good with her. You know, like for the for the people who followed me for some time and call themselves internet aunties. You know, and you are have been part of our extended family for so long. Just so you know, Alex is really good with her like you are, you are very, very good with drop offs and pickups and colds and flu and you’re so attentive.

Alex:

I mean, it has been a learning process because…

Nicole:

Oh talk about that.

Alex:

I mean, I’ve never Dad-ed before.

Nicole:

Yeah. sure, sure.

Alex:

So it is kind of stepping into that dad role.

Nicole:

There is no in between. I think that a lot of times people think that, oh, well, you know, I’ll hold all the weight or whatever. But the truth is, if this person is going to be in your life, you know, it’s just really difficult to have them there and pretend especially if you’re a single mom pretend like there isn’t some element of Hey, um, you know, I have to step out of the room, can you put dinner down for them? You know, like, there’s just no way to pretend like they’re not their babysitter.

Alex:

There just was definitely a moment where I realized that I was like, very in love with you. And I wanted to be with you regardless of you know, not regardless of what that came with. But I mean, whatever it came with you, like I welcomed all of it. You know if I could be with you, you know? So I was happy. I was happy to step into this role, especially because she’s such a cool kid. I mean, I lucked out. I mean, if I you know what I mean? Out of all the people dating someone with a kid, you know, I got to be with you, who’s like this amazing person. And then with Ali, who’s that super cool kid, she’s responsible. She doesn’t argue. She does all our homework. She goes to bed on time.

Nicole:

I mean, she’s better than either one of us was.

Alex:

Which I guess is sure, I guess kind of leads into the…

Nicole:

Oh, the news. Right, right. Right. Right. Well, before we get to the news, I love it. You gotta you gotta just keep it going. I love you so much. love so much. About love, right? I think another question that always comes up, because these are also based on questions that people always ask, like, they’re wanting to know, like, Well, what about with kids? And what about with this and all of that, you know,

Alex:

And it’s hard, but honestly, it’s, it’s been so good for me also, like, I mean, you know, being a musician, we have late nights, crazy schedules, whatever. I have never woken up so early, so consistently, when I was a week straight, and I woke up at 7am. Yeah, I was like, Who knew there was so much time in the day.

Nicole:

And you’re gonna use it all because that kid is coming home in a couple of hours.

Alex:

Oh, my God, when I got, I got so much done that week, and I’ve been in, you know, lately, I’ve just been so productive, so much more productive, because there’s just so much more time in the day, because I’m kind of, I mean, I’m forced to get up earlier, but now, but now I can’t even sleep in that late anymore. Because I’m like, I’m gonna lose out all this time. It’s just a different mentality of now I don’t have the availability of, let me do some work. And then I’ll take a break and watch an episode on Netflix or, you know, whatever, play a game on my phone while I take a break or something like, I don’t have time to do any of that anymore. And it’s so much better for me.

Nicole:

Sure. Kids change you!

Alex:

I mean, your days are now planned to the tee, you know, we sit down to do calendars all the time.

Nicole:

But it’s all based around sort of what’s going to help us all move forward, what’s good for the kid, what’s you know, I mean, she’s, it’s weird, it’s like, your kid is not the center of attention, but they are the priority, you know, so it’s like this sort of, you know, interesting dynamic that happens, and I just am really grateful that one, I even get to have your partnership, you know, because I will not lie, it is so much easier, you know, with a partner, especially if you have the right partner, or you have a good partner and a willing partner and someone who wants both of you. You know, I’m trying to not get teary about it, but you know, it’s just very meaningful. So that on the other side. What’s it like dating and this is like, another question, I get a lot, you know, what’s it like dating someone who makes so much more money than you? Because that’s also a big thing. You know, people ask all the time, they say, Nicole, I struggle to find a partner, because, you know, I make a million dollars, or I am always the higher earner, you know, and the thing I accepted a long time ago for me was, it’s very unlikely that I will meet a billionaire. Do you know what I mean? And I am a billionaire. I just, you know, haven’t collected all my money. You know, so if I know that this is where I’m headed, then I need to be really okay with recognizing that money is definitely not what matters here. And, I mean, you make great money, we always joke about how you’re only California poor, you know.

Alex:

There’s a difference between being LA broke, just broke, broke, broke, broke. Right, and the same money I make now I can live real comfortable somewhere else in the country.

Nicole:

Just about anywhere else in the country you could live a very nice life. But yeah, but all that being said, you know, I always knew that it was unlikely but I’m curious you know, and I think a lot of you know, my friends want to know, what’s that dynamic? Like, you know, being with someone that you know, you can still provide for a woman no matter what you know, a man is a man one way or another. But how do you feel about that dynamic? Is that weird for you? What do you think for other women?

Alex:

It wasn’t, it’s not that strange. I mean…

Nicole:

When did you even notice?

Alex:

When did I notice?

Nicole:

Yeah, because like I first of all, you know me, I eat cheese. you were shocked that I shopped at target you were like you shop at you get clothes at Target. I was like, oh do I?

Alex:

Little did I know your obsession with target.

Nicole:

It’s deep. It runs deep. I picked target over you any day, but…

Alex:

I wouldn’t blame you.

Nicole:

But that said, when you first came over to my place, which ladies just let you know was not on the first date, or the second date, or the third date don’t you cough. Don’t you try to make something it’s not. You will not make me Listen, I have older babies, and I have a standard for them. Also, y’all, I’m saved now. Next. So when you came to my place you were like, because it’s a beach house.

Alex:

Yeah. It’s very nice. I mean it’s nicer than any of my friends have. I mean, it’s nice. I remember I was like, what do you do?

Nicole

I smuggle. Ya know, so, um, but then how did you feel like, because a lot of women will say to me, they’re like, Nicole, I cannot believe you found someone because so many men are intimidated.

Alex:

Oh, yeah. No, I wasn’t. I mean, I don’t really care about that. I mean, for me, I was like, that’s amazing that you’ve worked hard, so hard. And you know, and you’ve had tis success. And that’s awesome, you know.

Nicole:

That’s something you’ve always said that work ethic is really important to you.

Alex:

Work ethic has always been super important to me. And I’ve always tried to align myself with people who have that work ethic, you know. So, I mean, I was super impressed with you. And I was like, I was like, wow, like, she’s amazing. But in terms of like, the dating process, yeah, with somebody who has more money than Yeah, how we handle it, how we handle it. I mean, the thing for me is that I don’t ask you for anything, anything. Like I never asked you for, for anything or to pay for anything. I’ll often pay for meals on paper, when we go out and do stuff. It’s like, I still make my own money. And I still work really hard to make my own money and you contribute, and I contribute, and I decide how to spend my own money when, you know, it’s not that she needs me to pay for a meal or movie tickets or a date or whatever it is. But you know, if I, you know, man’s gonna be a man, sometimes.

Nicole:

I appreciate that.

Alex:

I might today, I’m gonna treat my baby.

Nicole:

Like, a large popcorn? You spoil me. Okay, he’s got money. It’s true, though.

Alex:

But put that candy back, though, because that’s too much.

Nicole:

That’s fine. I think we could share a soda just to get the water. No, he’s really good to me. And I appreciate that. And honestly, ladies, like, you know, I’m gonna go ahead and issue a statement to both of us, right, or to both sides of it, right? One, you don’t need to accept a man who’s not willing to get off their butt, get a job, work, pay bills, and you know, show up and be a provider. And understand that being a provider doesn’t just look like cutting certain checks or, you know, buying you handbags or, you know, putting you on jets or things like that, you know, I’ve dated guys like that. And, you know, it’s short lived, you know what I mean? Because they start thinking that a handbag actually replaces compassion.

But what I can tell you, there are so many women who think that love is represented by material goods, or material experiences, or things that they’re able to show to their friends or their family or what have you. And I mean, honestly, you can’t see the forest for the trees because you’re missing what actually matters, and that someone who’s present and that cares, and that loves you, and that is committed and dedicated. And there when it’s hard, and they’re when it’s good and sees the best of you and that you cannot pay for.

So all that said, I know that we have some news that we want to share. But before we do, do you have anything that you think I want to ask a couple like rapid fire questions, kind of which this is typical on a podcast, I never ever do this, but I’m totally going to do it here because they’re funny in our situation.

Alex:

Okay.

Nicole:

So I’m just gonna ask you a couple of questions, random questions and see what the answer is because I know that this is what people want to know. First of all, do I have any weird habits that you discovered once we got together?

Alex:

There are two things actually. Wait two,what. Two things. All right. One way you put on deodorant. You don’t need to put on deodorant. onto your ribs all the way down to like your spread.

Nicole:

I do go through deodorant though I started realizing I think I go through it more than others. Now I coat myself thoroughly. I’m telling you, it is like ribcage to elbow. It’s literally what it looks like. I’m just trying to make sure I don’t ever have a situation. I lock and seal that entire pit area down, okay? With pride.

Alex:

And God, I love you. And you can decide whether to keep this or not. But I mean, you are so smart, and you’re so successful. And you’re all these amazing things. I love you. But Lord, you still can’t put on pants.

Nicole:

I cannot. That is something people don’t know. And I fall.

Alex:

And when I say fall, I mean, hit the ground every single time.

Nicole:

Every time you know how people say that saying, what is it? You gotta put your pants on one leg at a time.

Alex:

She skips that step.

Nicole:

You know what it is? I will I will I will honestly say here’s what happened. I take such a long time to get ready, right? Yeah, like I mean, I can get any kind of quick-ish. But like, you know, usually I’m procrastinating or working to the last minute. So I’m rushing to get out of the door. And because I’m rushing to get out of the door. I tried to do this thing, where I just jump into my pants.

Alex:

I love this justification.

Nicole:

I’m not. I’m explaining. Is this not true? Is this not true? Like, we’re like I’m rushing to get out the door. And I’m like, and you’re like, go go go, you know, we’re late. And then I’m like, I have to run I have to jump in them. And then I jump in them. And then I trip usually because I’ve tried to like run or I’m trying to walk and put them on. And every time I forget this is not, slow down. So yes, you’re right. I struggle to put on pants.

Alex:

So I think those might be the two big things.

Nicole:

Is there any major pet peeve that you have about my behavior? Anything that I do like that super annoying?

Alex:

Pet peeve? I don’t know if it’s a pet peeve. But I guess I guess there’s because you’re such you’re such a good communicator. And you’re, and you’re so good at getting it out of people with the whole. Tell me more about that. Sometimes I don’t want to tell you more about that.

Nicole:

Oh, sometimes you don’t want to talk feels.

Alex:

I don’t want to talk feels. I want to sit there and be moody. Or something.

Nicole:

I remember when you were like I love playing games on dates. And I was like, Oh, I love games too. Like I have this great game we should play.

Alex:

Oh yeah.

Nicole:

Oh what was the game?

Alex:

It was like this card game all about like this really heavy emotional baggage.

Nicole:

It was emotional questions. And I was like, isn’t this great? I’m learning so much about you. Like tell me a little bit about your childhood. When did you feel the least loved? Go?

Alex:

I know. Wow it’s so fun.

Nicole:

I know you were like, this is terrible. Let’s never do this again. And I was like, But aren’t we growing as people?

Alex:

We’re growing, great. Okay, we’re gonna play my game now.

Nicole:

It was like Nintendo.

Alex:

Set up my switch.

Nicole:

I know. You’re like let’s play Mario Brothers and it was terrible. Okay, and then, what is your favorite thing about my face?

Alex:

Are you gonna look at me like, okay. Favorite thing I like about your face. I can’t even pick, I think all of it.

Nicole: No boo.

Alex:

Alright, I’d have to say your eyes because you look like a real life anime. They’re upside down.

Nicole:

It’s so funny because it’s not what people usually say.

Alex:

Eyes and lips.

Nicole:

Oh, this is a children. I told you guys headphone alert.

Alex:

Sorry. I meant by lips, I meant your smile.

Nicole:

Y’all a mess. Okay, and then final question before we reveal our big news. Where do you see this whole thing going?

Alex:

Wow, put me on the spot, huh?

Nicole:

I mean, hey, that’s what everyone else wants to know, by everyone else. I mean, why would I bring you on my podcast with a mic in a studio, in front of my producer and not take advantage of this opportunity?

Alex:

That’s fair. That’s fair enough. Well, I already know where this is going. I knew two months in. I knew two months in and when we had a conversation over what we wanted in our future, you know, about like family and just like all this stuff. I mean, yeah, I’m gonna marry you. 100%. That’s my intention. That’s what’s going to happen. And it’s so weird because I mean, I’ve been with people for, I was in five year relationships to your relationships and stuff like that. And I never had that inclination to want to like, really, really get married and have kids and..

Nicole:

Oh, you want babies?

Alex:

Oh, yeah, I want babies. Oh, I want babies. Heads up.

Nicole:

Oh my gosh, oh, my gosh, you are the worst.

Alex:

But, um, but yeah. That’s my intention. And I knew that, probably like two months.

Nicole:

Oh my gosh, see that. And I can also tell you ladies, like, if you’re listening on that one, which that’s sweet. I love you all those things. I already knew that he was gonna say that. But ladies, I just wanna let you know that that intentionality I think a lot of people think that men don’t come like this anymore, or that they play a lot of games or that, you know, guys are only interested in swiping right or, you know, that sort of thing. And I just want to let you know, that interested men act interested. And that’s something that my friend Demetrio always used to say is that, like know, if a guy has the intention to be with you, he will treat you like that he will act like that. He will say it and it will show up in everything he does.

Alex:

And I think that now that you know I have you and I’m with you, I am working hard all the time to keep you.

Nicole:

Which is really sweet. Because you know I’m not going anywhere. Like have you seen what he looks like?

Alex:

But that shows up whether it’s you know, waking up in the morning.

Nicole:

Yeah. See now was just saying the surprise! Surprises y’all. We live together. Yeah, it’s not even real news. Interesting now it’s like, oh, it’s obvious. Now I know, the truth is not only do we live together, but you know, I think we both feel the same way that we’re hoping to see what happens in the future. Yeah, for sure.

Alex:

And, you know, like I was saying, so now I can actually say, is, like, you know, in terms of working hard to keep you shows up in terms of just waking up in time in the morning to take Ally to school, or like picking her up on time or giving you the space, you know, to do what you need to do professionally.

Nicole:

And you’re super good about that with work.

Alex:

So helping out where I can.

Nicole:

Yeah, I appreciate it. I also think that it shows up in the way that you work for your own career. And you’re always talking about how important it is to you to be the man that you’ll be in the future, that will make like your future kids proud and

Alex:

Oh yeah, cuz I don’t want to have kids and then you know, they grow up seeing me not really like doing much or just still, you know, hustling, I want them to see the fruits of my labor by the time they’re old enough to see it and appreciate it. So I want to work hard now to kind of like set that precedent like, I want to work hard now so I can be in the future. You know, provider a provider and you know and contribute more and I’m always working hard to so I can contribute more and do more for a family and all that.

Nicole:

Oh, I love you so much.

Alex:

I love you too.

Nicole:

So everyone I’m really beyond getting my face hurts from smiling so much and it’s just I’m beside myself. So you heard the whole story of getting back out there and dating you heard how it has its highs and its lows. You heard me say and I’m not naive about it at all. Life is crazy. I don’t know what the future is gonna bring. But what I do know is right now it is so so good. And a large part of it is because of this one. So thank you for being here.

Alex:

Thank you so much for having me. It’s been a pleasure.

Nicole:

Oh, is that your podcast voice see, do you see what I’ve done? You see what I’ve done, y’all. Thanks for tuning in. And I know so many of you always say that you’re praying for me and you’re praying for the girls and that you have a covering over all of us and I just want to let you know it’s working.

In this episode, Alex and I chat about:
  • How we met (from Alex’s perspective!)
  • If Alex planned on dating someone with kids,
  • How Alex feels about dating someone who makes more money than him, and
  • A surprise announcement at the end!
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My darkest days

My darkest days

My Darkest Days

One of the things that I’m learning in this starting over process is that healing is not linear. The darkest days are behind me but that doesn’t mean there won’t be more dark days in this process. Friend in this chat we’re talking about how there isn’t some magical finish line where we will suddenly feel done healing. There will be setbacks but we’re stronger because of them. Friend, I am so proud of you for always getting back up again. Thanks for being with me in this season as we start over, together.

 

Let’s keep this conversation going over on instagram! Let me know how you’re getting through setbacks right now. I love hearing from you friend. I can’t wait to chat there.

Hey, friend. So I know that our chat sometimes are highs, you know, talking about funny stories and cool things and new love and new life, and sometimes their lows. And then we’re talking about the hard stuff and growing and getting better. And that’s kind of what I wanted to chat about today. One of the things that I’m learning consistently in this starting over process is that healing is not linear. And one of the worst things we can do for ourselves, it’s expect that there’s some magical finish line where we will suddenly feel better. And all that life is, is chasing and running towards that. I want you to know, that’s not the case at all. If you are saying to yourself, every time you’re having a bad day, or a tough moment, oh my word like, why isn’t it getting better? Or oh, my gosh, things were going so great. And I can’t believe this horrible thing happened and knock me off my feet. Well, friend, that’s what I want to unpack today. Because guess what, I’m just like you. I’ve been doing this to myself, and just keeping it all the way real. Divorce is hard. It is so hard. And I’m going to admit something here today that’s not fun to say. But the hardest part now is not even the partnership. It’s not oh my gosh, I miss my ex and I want to get back together it is not that y’all I am so far past that point. You have those seasons, you have those moments, but it is not that I do not miss my previous life.

As a matter of fact, I was having a conversation with my, my current fella. And he asked me because there’ll be moments where I will be laughing at old videos or sharing with the kiddos, you know, something funny they did when they were a kid over one Christmas. And you know, we were kind of at the end of the night having one of our sort of connects, you know, where we kind of sit down and go over the day and ask how each other’s doing and seeing what each other needs. And he asked me, he was like, you know, I noticed that you have this smile on your face when you’re watching some of these videos, you know, in your old home or, you know, with your you know, with your wasband, and you know, just Are you alright? Do you miss it? Do you miss it sometimes? And we have a very open partnership. So I didn’t lie to him. I told him yes. You know, even when I’m scrolling through social, you know, and I see, you know, some of y’all commenting like, gosh, I just you know, I missed the old family stuff where I miss, you know, what it used to be like, and I miss it too. I do. I look at it fondly. And there is so much about it, that is a positive thing. Even now, I don’t know if you can hear to my voice, but I smile about it because I had fun. There was fun there for sure. But when I think about it, and this is what I told him, you know, what I don’t miss is that in every single moment, I always wondered what would it be like to be in this moment 100%? That I always felt myself showing up to all these moments, maybe like 80% 90% joy. Showing up and feeling like, gosh, you know, all this stuff is good and great. But what if my partner was equally happy? Because I knew, you know, I knew partly because he told me, I also knew partly because you can feel when someone’s not all the way in it. You know, and I just knew in these moments, you know that the life that I was living was, gosh, 70% joyful. And I just couldn’t shake that. What would it look like if I had if I could even have a life that was 80% happy, 90% Happy, like what would it look like to be with someone and end with a moment and in it 100%.

And here’s the kicker, y’all. What I didn’t realize, then that I realized now is if you’re going to have moments in your life where you’re in it 100% happy, you’re also going to have to live a life of truth where you’re in and you’re 100% sad. If you’re going to feel you’re going to feel completely on both sides, the highs and the lows. So I do miss what I thought my life used to be. I get this question a lot. Don’t you miss it? I do. But the reality is so much better than the fantasy, even if it does come with a heaping dose of hard days and hard pain. It’s kind of like that scene and if you’ve ever seen The Matrix where it’s all about, you know how and if you haven’t seen it, you know, essentially the main character is told that life is basically a simulation. It’s not real, it’s kind of like one big video game and on one side they can choose to remain in the video game. You know where they’re living this life that sort of seems real and you know is but it’s all being manufactured by outside sources. So you’re not in control of anything, you’re just living this life that seems real or they can choose to see the reality of life, which they guarantee will be painful and they guarantee will be difficult and they guarantee will have hardships but it’s Real. And with that realness it also means that when there is joy, you’re gonna feel it at 100%. And the main character without, you know, spoiling it for you does make a choice. But I want to let you know that it’s very much what it feels like to go through divorce, there’s nothing like realizing that staying in your partnership is hard and leaving your partnership is going to be hard. But which hard do you choose?

And what has been hard, recently, you know, is, whenever I get a trigger, a trigger can be anything for me, it can be anything from my kid getting sick, you know, which is going to happen, right? It’s cold and flu season, your kids gonna end up getting a cold or something weird like that, or money, right? You know, I support multiple households, I’m the breadwinner, I’ve always been the breadwinner for my household. You know, so I’m the breadwinner for my whole family. You know, and I work really, really hard. And so, you know, doing all of that. Plus, you know, a divorce is like a third job y’all like, as if I don’t already have like five or six, I run multiple companies, and I’m an investor and all those things. But it’s like another job because you are responding with paperwork, you’re negotiating, it really is much like closing a business, you know, so you’ve got this other thing that requires 100% of your attention. So you’ve got parenting that needs you 100%, you’ve got this job that needs you 100%, you’ve got your companies that need you, you have you know, I of course, had to go and fall in love, like a full. I’m getting I’m so grateful. But you know, that requires my attention. Because it’s something that I want to nurture, that’s so special to me. And then there’s your own health and well being you guys know that I’ve had some health struggles, so I can’t neglect that either. And when I tell you when your kid comes up sick, you’re like, ah, you know, I do not need one more thing. You know, like, and you feel bad, because your baby doesn’t feel well either. So it’s like just a bunch of different things. But then there’s money stuff, you know, where you’re like, how am I going? I’m spread so thin, I got to do all these things. And, you know, I can’t have one more weird thing come up, you know, and mind you, any of Mama’s of teenagers, anyone who’s a 20 year old and yourself, you know, your car breaks down. It’s one more thing your you know, teenager does something dumb. That’s one more thing, you know, so you worry about that. And I gotta tell you my triggers right now. Anything that comes up, I’m like, I don’t have capacity for one more thing.

And it puts me in a place where I’m just kind of like, Am I doing everything wrong? What have I done? Am I making a mistake? I feel like it wasn’t like this before. What type of like, I cannot believe that I am the only like, I’m the only parent I’m the only one. I’m the only only only like, everything seems to be me and only me. And when I tell you, as and I know, some of y’all are hearing me right now saying like, Yes, girl, the weight is on my shoulders. There’s no one else I’m looking left. And I’m looking right saying, who’s here to catch me, right? Like who’s here to help me? Because when the kids get sick, y’all, they’re coming to you. You know what I mean? And it’s not that it’s not that, you know, Dad’s not trying, right, you know, in your situations, you know, but you’re the primary. That’s how it goes. And I want to reference that to remind you that I had to remind myself in these low moments to get out of them, that there isn’t some magical point where it wasn’t going to be hard. There wasn’t a magical point where healing has thus concluded congratulations, here’s your trophy and your 7/11 Slurpee, you have won, move forth. That’s not how that works. It’s that you kind of heal from one thing: it gets you good and strong. And you move on to the next thing. And I’ve had some really dark days. I mean, just being completely honest, I have had some days where it’s like, I want to walk out the front door and not look back. And I say all of this, loving my children and loving my partner and truly being happy and joyful in my life that I’m in now but I’ve had some days where it has been heavy to hold the way that I describe it as this and I think it’ll resonate with a lot of you.

Sometimes it feels like divorce is like you’re treading water. You can see the shore, you are so close to it, it feels like you almost could reach it like the water is not that deep. But you’re treading water. And whether it’s your wasband or financial state or anything from your past feels like a weight as you’re treading this water and that just tires you out even more. And you’re saying to yourself, gosh, like, at times it feels like it would almost be relieving to give into this weight and just let it take you under but you keep treading water because that’s you you’re a natural fighter not going to let it through and you know, you can see short in sight so it’s inspiring. You can see relief on the horizon. And if you’re blessed, like I definitely am, you have so many people around you. You are never alone. If you’re really blessed, you’ve got friends, you’ve got therapists, you’ve got your church, you’ve got faith and if you don’t have these things

listened to, I think two or three episodes ago I talk about what you need to get through. And those are some of the things church faith a therapist friends, I mean, family You just need people don’t need a lot of them. But you need life preservers around you so that when you’re treading and you need a moment, they can coach you, maybe they can help you. Sometimes they can hold you, not forever, but they can support you. So you can get a couple of breaths so you can keep going.

And in those moments of treading water to stay afloat, it can feel like you’re going to drown any minute. Friend, you may be in that moment, right now, I know I’ve been in and out of it over the past two, three months. But what I want to also let you know is that even if you are feeling those moments, I want you to know that the time will come, no matter what, no matter how long it takes, whether it is three months, or six months, three years, or six years, where that weight is going to be cut off, and you will be able to make it to shore. And even better friend, what you may not realize now in this moment, is that as you’re treading water, and treading water with weights, you are getting stronger. So at times where I get so frustrated, because I’m like, gosh, I feel like this process is unnecessarily difficult for me. No one’s helping me with my kids. No one’s helping me with the bills. I am a full, entirely independent adult, showing up in this world and being entirely responsible and stepping in and doing responsibilities where others are not. And how could that be? Right? How could this be? How could this be happening? Right? What have I done wrong, that I’m in this space, I instead try to remind myself that in these moments, I’m getting stronger. I’m getting better. And frankly, in some ways, friend, if you really look back at it, is it really that different than it used to be? Haven’t you always been the point person? Have you always been the strong one?

Now, don’t take any of that to mean that you don’t have a right to softness in your life, you do have a right to a break. And you do have a right to feel ease. And you do have a right to feel comfort and supported and loved. But if this is the card that you’ve been dealt, if this is the season that you’re in, I want you to recognize that all this weight you’ve been lifting means that you are going to get to shore, the promised land, the relief better and stronger and faster than ever. You just have to wait it out until those weights break free. And I promise you they will. And during that process while you’re waiting, every time something comes anew, that feels like a gut punch that feels like oh my goodness, I thought things were just getting better, y’all. As you know, like, I’ve got the little one full time. And school makes no sense. You start at 7:30 and then you pick up your kid at like two o’clock. And then like on Tuesdays they have like half days. Are they even in school? Let’s be honest, what are they even doing? It takes me 45 minutes to get my kid to settle down to even start their homework. So I know good. And well, they’re probably only getting about 90 minutes of instruction and an average day. Right? So what is even happy if y’all aren’t going to keep them, just tell me to not even bring them to school. That’s how this feels right. And God bless the teachers, because I do not know how you’re doing anything in that schedule and that structure, but that’s a conversation for another day.

What I do want to say though, is that I felt like I was dropping her off. Because I don’t have a nanny, I don’t have, you know, a full team, you know, supporting me in this season, I’ve elected to really be hands on with my children, because there have been so many transitions, that for right now, being present and being mom and being hands on is super important to me and for my child, I recognize that for others that may not be the case so that is not passing judgment, it’s just speaking to my specific situation. So being hands on, and lavishing love and attention on my little, is one where it means that I am dropped her off and picking her up and y’all I dropped her off. And by the time I get home and kind of get my life together, I’m trying to pick her up again. And I finally was like I found out that we had an after school program, you know, that would be able to assist me with that because you can’t hire a nanny for a couple hours a day. Like, it’s just really hard to find people aren’t really interested in that you can’t really build the type of relationship you want, you know, so I was like, Okay, I’m gonna sign up for this program.

So if y’all don’t know this exists, they have after school programs, ask your school, I’m not gonna lie to you I’m in a very privileged position where I’m able to afford something like that not everyone can, you know, I’ve I adjusted the budget so I can make room for that, you know, so I can cover that. You know those expenses. But if you can figure out a way or if you have a partner who can assist you with that or is willing to assist you with that definitely look into it because what happens is now it gives me enough five o’clock every day. So that was something I did for myself so that I could pace my day better. But friends, I thought I finally had it made. I was like, I got these extra hours back, I can finally get work. We tried this for an entire week and the kids doing great. She’s coming back with her homework done. She’s getting tutoring help, because of my house. We carry the one. They’re not teaching the kids carry the one anymore. So I’m over here like, yeah, she’s gonna make it. We got our routine, we are doing it. The kid gets sick, comes down with the flu. You know, that’s how that goes. And now the routine has all come boggled and messed up. And I’m like, we were following a thing. We were on a high and now we’re on a low. Can I get 10 days of consistent, less crazy, right?

That’s real life, the highs and the lows. And I want to let you know that I’m not even kidding. When I heard that first sneeze cough and I gave, I was like, I don’t know what’s going on lay down. And then I gave her the thermometer and it came back with a fever. I did all the moms things, kept myself composed, took care of her all those good things. And then I went upstairs and I just cried, I came on done. I’m done. Nothing makes me fall apart more than my baby’s not being well. And I came in done. And I realized that it was because I felt like aren’t we healing? Are we making progress? Didn’t we move forward? Why Why? Why? Am I back here again, solving another problem. Dealing with a kid who’s not going to be in school for three days, trying to adjust all my meetings and stuff around it? Will I ever get ahead? And I was getting into this woe is me cycle because I just could not believe that my healing wasn’t linear towards good. Why wasn’t I continuously growing and doubling my numbers and doing better and progressing and losing weight and not plateauing and all the things that we always say about transformation, we feel like it’s a constant path and step forward towards improvement, while friend, the way that it looks when you’re losing weight is you have a before and an after, and then you have some before again, and then you have an after then you have before again, and then you’re before sticks around for a little while, then you enjoy a little bit more of after, and then you have a bigger after, look, it’s not linear.

So what you need to get great at is what we’ve been talking about all season, starting over, recognizing that starting over isn’t always going to be marked by some major loss or some major move. What I want you to know today is because healing isn’t linear, starting over is going to happen in a miniature small way. All along the bigger process of starting over plot twist. So I’m in a whole new life. And I’m figuring out whole new systems, I’ve got whole new people and whole new friends. I’m building and deepening relationships with people that I have had in my life, because they’re reintroducing themselves to a version of me, that’s happier than they seen in many, many years. I mean, things are so different now.

But within that, as I’m learning new formulas and new patterns, learning to drive around new neighborhoods and trying new foods, I’m learning to start over in a whole new way. So friend, what I’ve started doing is whenever these moments happen, the number one thing I focus on, is getting present. Because it’s so easy in those moments to immediately jump to the past or the future. And in the past, there’s what would have this been like in my previous life. The truth is, I’d still be taking care of the baby, I’d still be the person that she’d be looking to I’d still be responsible for making sure she’s okay and figuring out her regimen and managing all the things. But you know, oh gosh, I’d be doing it in a different home or, you know, I’d be able to, you know, frankly, that’s I mean, it’d be the same. But that’s part of why you know, not going in the past is really because we glorify and glamorize what we thought it used to be. Right?

So there’s the past and then there’s the future Oh, no, but what does this mean? Well, I will she be okay, what will happen? Will she never be able to hit school? Will she keep getting sick? You know, it’s all this anxiety but the truth is in the present, well, she’s sick, you’re managing it, you’re doing a great job, she’s gonna get better. There’s signs of improvement. You are healthy yourself, you have the means to take care of it. You have the ability and the tools to be able to handle and help it today. She trusts you enough to be honest about how she feels she’s loved and supported and you are caring for her the way she deserves to be cared for. She’s in a position where even though she’s not feeling great. She is receiving the love and attention that she deserves to heal, and that’s going to help her for a lifetime. And when you get present, friend, when you get present, you realize how much you have.

Our tendency and whenever we are healing, or we get caught in the past or in the future is to focus on where we lack. But in the present, you lack nothing. Because you are doing such a good job handling what is in front of you and you are friend, you are, you realize that you like nothing, everything you need is there and you are using it, and you’re doing the best you can to handle the moment the best you can. And that is enough, you are enough. So, while it can feel so frustrating, and challenging, and disappointing, to have to experience the lows, as you’re working so hard to sustain the highs, I want you to know that we’re not any different. There isn’t some place or some person or some other reality where it would be better. Or it would be easier, or you’d have more answers. That just isn’t because you are the best person to tackle what you’re facing every single day. And you’re the best person and the evidence of that is the way that you’re dealing with it and the way that you’re showing up, you’re doing a great job. And this is what I’ve had to remind myself, every time I start getting into the pit of it all.

It’s that, look, Nicole, this is the hand that you’ve been dealt, and you are showing up and you are still here. And the evidence of doing well. And all of that is how the people around you are still thriving, and how you’re thriving, and how you’ve managed to have joy and you’re not fixated on what other people have or don’t have or what other people have done or what they haven’t done or what other people will do or won’t do. You’re fixated on loving well and smiling in the moment and assuring your own health and the health of those around you. And that says a lot about who you are and how you show up.

So friend, I am so proud of you for always getting back up again. Whenever you’re in that valley and chasing the feeling of what it’s like to be on the mountaintop. And more than anything, I am so proud of you because even though healing isn’t a straight line, you keep showing up. Keep after a friend.

In this episode, we chat about:

    • How there isn’t a magical finish line where we will suddenly feel done healing,

    • The details behind some of my darkest days,

    • How we can move through the healing process, knowing it’s not linear, and

    • What I’m focusing on this holiday season as I start over

Resources and links mentioned in this episode:

    • Record a voice message for me here

    • Don’t miss the last episode where I talk about my complicated feelings around birthdays HERE

    • I love reading your reviews of the show! You can share your thoughts on Apple here!

More about The Nicole Walters Podcast:

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I hate my birthday

I hate my birthday

 

I hate my birthday

Friend, today we’re talking about the toughness of celebrating your birthday and holidays when life around you has changed.

Everything may be wrong, but everything is also right. And most importantly friend, nothing is missing.

Tune in to hear why I don’t look forward to my birthday and what has changed in the last few years.

Thanks for being here, friend! Let me know what you thought about this episode by sliding into my DMs! Can’t wait to chat there.

Nicole:
Hey, friend. So today, I know I always start off by saying I’m so so excited to chat. And I am. But this particular chat I wanted to come in and kind of do real time. So sometimes I do these and they are like a week or two right before before the time they actually go live to you. But this chat I wanted to do kind of real time. Now, just this past week, I have the joy of celebrating my 28th birthday. Now, I know that so many of you are like what, Nicole? That’s crazy. Oh my gosh, I can’t believe you’re 28. You look 25, and just playing with ya’ll.I am a woman of a certain age. However, I am grateful for the many years of life that God has given me. And this past week, I had the opportunity to celebrate my 38th birthday. And it was a really good one. And I wanted to talk about some of the emotions that went along with it and what it’s like to celebrate a birthday when your life has changed, because I think that holidays, often mark whenever you’ve experienced a lot of change. So it’s why whenever a holiday is coming, we argue with our family, you know, like, well, there’s so and so coming or are they bringing the girlfriend or you know, whose house are we having it at?

You know, a lot of the reason why we start having those types of triggered conversations is because holidays symbolize tradition, they symbolize formulas and the formulaic and the norm. And the thing that we often struggle to realize is that life on the other 364 days of the year is far from it. So it’s why come this time of year, you start having those arguments about who’s doing what, who’s bringing what, what does this look like, where are we doing it? And it’s because we all are basing it off of information from a year ago about how we used to do it. But what has happened between that year and now.

So we’ve been having a lot of chats here. And you know that in just the past year, so much has happened. I mean, I am in Los Angeles, which means that this is going to be my first very Christmasy Christmas because for me Christmas is pine trees and snow and all the Hallmark movie stuff and I’m dealing with palm trees, you know, and beaches and all the things that don’t quite associate Christmas to me, but, you know, it’s still Christmas, right? Because it’s not just about what the holiday looks like. It’s about a little baby Jesus, you know, so knowing that it’s just kind of a recalibration in my mind around that change. But the tougher part of it, is that having the holidays, you know, in this situation means that I’m thinking about what’s going to happen with the kids. Right? I have all my babies and I’m their mama and that’s great and we’re whenever we’re together we’re good, right? But just thinking about this is going to be my first holiday without my partner you know without my ex you know, my was-band and that is weird. It’s weird, friend. And that’s what I wanted to talk about today is what it’s like having to experience things that have always been mile markers of holidays and fun and family and festivity. And do it without a certain family member because we, you know, lost them because they passed or lost them because of time and change, or lost them by choice, because we knew that it just wasn’t time for them to continue into the next chapter with us and what that’s like.

So I can’t think of a better way to explain it. Because obviously, you know, this time of year, we’re going into Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, we’ve got these sort of pointed, consistent holidays that we’re all celebrating, including, you know, Hanukkah, Diwali, like all these Kwanzaa like all these different things. But for me, I also have a birthday. And I don’t know if other people tend to experience this but for me, birthdays are not what you see on social media. They are not “Hey, girl, it’s me season” or and the kids, they don’t even say season anymore. They say sZn. They’ve abbreviated it, the hip, Nicole the tick Dockers. So you know it’s me season or people are like, Oh, it’s my birthday month. You know, I just, I’ve never been that person as much as I have a big personality. And I love having fun. And you know, I’m excited and energetic when my birthday comes around y’all who the blues, it’s almost like maybe 48 hours before I start dreading it. And I can even feel my belly flipping talking about it. Now I start feeling it. And I don’t know if some of you guys relate to this. I know a lot of people don’t but you know, this is it’s just real for us weird ones out there, you know, that are feeling it. My belly starts to flip I start getting nervous and anxious about it. I start wondering, oh, gosh, are people gonna like know, how do I keep it quiet, I started dreading all the things that come with birthdays for me. So I’m not excited about how my phone’s going to ring off the hook, I’m gonna get tons of text messages, I start feeling awkward about oh, gosh, someone’s gonna find out, they’re gonna say happy birthday. And then I’m gonna have to respond and be like, Thank you, you know, I start dreading the attention, the awkwardness, and all the things that go along with birthdays.

And I know that sounds crazy, because you know, a birthday is supposed to be a celebration of you, it’s supposed to be a celebration of your life and the accomplishment and maybe even another mile marker. And so it’s not fun to talk about. Because on this day, we’re supposed to say we’re grateful for another year of life, and I am, you know, I am. And, you know, we’re supposed to be all it’s my day, it’s me, but you know, I’m a mama. So it’s rarely my day, at least 100%. You know, and or we’re supposed to be sprinkling wisdom all over and talking about, you know, all the things we’ve learned. And I have to tell you, I’ve tried all those things. But the truth is, I get birthday blues. And the reason I get them is it’s one of the many survival tools that I’ve hardwired into myself. I haven’t celebrated a birthday or had one celebrated with or for me, since I was about 10 years old. And some of that is from poverty. It’s because my parents just financially didn’t have the funds to really make a big to do have a birthday. And when you’re younger, you kind of understand that you don’t understand it completely. And you recognize and see your peers, you know, still having parties and gifts and things of that sort. And you kind of wonder why you don’t have them, even though you know that the means aren’t there, but you kind of just don’t quite understand why it doesn’t come together. And what happens is you start tempering your hope, you start minimizing your expectation.

So while everyone else is tossing confetti and throwing around well wishes, you just kind of start to want to hide under the covers until the day of disappointment has passed. Because it’s you know, there’s a tension and there’s awkwardness and there’s anxiousness. And there’s all these things that are happening that are the opposite of what you feel. And frankly, you may feel even a little embarrassed that you’re feeling them and you know, birthdays and holidays are historically just not about you. And this continued into adulthood for me. I can easily say for the past 10 years of my life, 10, 12, 15 years, I haven’t had a birthday celebrated with me or for me. I haven’t had Mother’s days or Christmases or you know the way the holidays went for me were essentially… I’m a big gift giver. So I’ve always been the gift giver. I was the celebrator. I’m the one who watches everyone open their gifts really eagerly and with excitement and I’m always the one who tries to remember even the tiniest mention if you just sneeze a little thought that you like something. I will register it and I’m like, I’m gonna I’m gonna swing back around and make sure they get that and I always want to take these tiny wishes and make them big realities. But I also learned with that, that I shouldn’t get my hopes up that somebody would do that for me. Because you know, if my own parents didn’t do it, I know y’all right now, especially my therapists who are listening are like, Ooh, girl, girl, I’ve worked through it, we’re about to get to the good part.

But I just want to let you guys know that in case you’re unpacking some of this, I really, I know, some of you right now are nodding your head like yes, like, my expectation, especially as a mom, our expectations gets so low, that someone’s going to care for us. Our expectations get so low. If you are the child of immigrants, if you are a minority, if you are a woman, we don’t even realize sometimes how low our expectations are and how we have learned to manage our hope around somebody taking care of us or showing us kindness or acknowledging us. And that is simply because it hasn’t happened enough, we’ve learned to convince ourselves that we don’t need it, because we aren’t expecting it and/or hasn’t been given even when it’s due. And so you basically stop getting our hopes up. So you don’t have to deal with a broken heart. But you don’t realize that you’re breaking your own heart first. And all this while, I know that I’ve grown to say that I’m satisfied with it. I’m okay being empty handed. And I’m okay being forgotten, right. Because what’s truly Christian-like and motherly, and a proud child of an immigrant who’s grateful and thankful is to look at everyone else and all the gifts that they’re opening and everything and just smile down on them saying their joy is my gift.

And I want to let you know that that’s true. It really is like, I am so happy to serve people and to love up on them but that’s only partly true. And it’s only partly true for me. And it’s only partly true for you, friend. I want and I deserve my own joy. You hear me? You do too, friend. You deserve your own joy. You deserve to celebrate yourself, right? That’s important, we should celebrate, we should clap for our own dang selves. That is an important thing we should do. But you deserve to be celebrated too. It’s not okay to sit there and watch everyone open a gift and nobody remembered you. It’s not okay for Mother’s Day to come and go and no one even said thank you. It’s not okay that people forgot your birthday, you matter and you deserve to not be forgotten. And it’s not just in the gifting. Frankly, it’s not even in how many people texted you or how many comments or likes you received. It’s not about the actual little quantifiable, countable actions. It’s about knowing that you deserve them one way or another.

The concern here is not so much that we live our lives, expecting gifts or wanting gifts and feeling like we’re lacking because we didn’t get them y’all nothing is missing. What matters is that you know that whether or not those gifts come, you deserve them. And the concern is convincing ourselves that we deserve to live without. I want you to know that this year, I woke up with the blues. Because I have less than before. But I also have more than I could ever imagine. Materialistically I mean, I’m still blessed, I have homes, I have items, you know, I have all those things. But man, divorce is hard. I don’t know what’s going to be here tomorrow. I don’t know what I’m going to have to work to get back. I don’t know what messages or emails are gonna pop up on any given day or you know, if my own heart is going to be broken, or if my kids hearts are going to be broken. I do not know what tomorrow will bring. But I do know that I still have a peace that surpasses all understanding. I do know that without fail, love is going to be there beside me. I do know that my babies are happy, healthy and whole. And I can tell you that the joy that I have is overwhelming. And the love abounds.

I have my three sweet girls and my dear Misterfella, right. And all my birthday my family and friends were buzzing my phone endlessly. And all of you showed up to in my DMs and in the comments saying happy birthday. And instead of me thinking for the very first time like this is awkward and I don’t know what to do with all this. And you know, it’s so nice to have all these internet friends you know, an internet Auntie showing this love. But what about the people closest to me? Well, the people closest to me showed me love too and I realized that with all the changes that had happened the holiday was better than before. God is so good y’all. And I want to let you know that for all of you who are coming into this holiday season, maybe dreading the auntie or the uncle that won’t be at the table or even more dreading the auntie or uncle that will be at the table, you know, or wondering if you can handle hosting this year or if you’ll be able to, you know, keep it together. While you remember the dish that doesn’t quite taste quite the same as when mom was here to make it.

And I want you to know that this year for my birthday, my new guy, Alex, he took me out. And it was a surprise and y’all I hate surprises. I hate surprises, because the awkwardness of it all like, what if I hate it? What if it’s no good. And you know, it’s the control freak in me. And he surprised me. And he took me out and there was dinner and a show and just activities and fun. And you know, he took me some place fancy and I was like, This is too fancy. And then he took me to pizza. And I mean it when I think about what it’s like walking down a Los Angeles City street eating a slice of pizza, and holding hands and thinking to myself a year ago, three years ago, I was sitting on a couch alone with a glass of wine, wondering if this is what the next 50 years would bring.

As much as everything is so deeply wrong. It’s wrong. From the picture of what I thought it’s not the table that I thought I’d have this Thanksgiving. And it’s not the home or roof that I thought I’d have over my head. And it’s not the hand that I thought I’d be holding. But you know, everything is so right. It’s so deeply right. It’s so aligned. It’s so exactly who I need to be today, in this moment, to get me to tomorrow, I’m learning what I need to learn to be the person that I need to be. And the same thing applies for you. If the only thing you learn in these difficult moments is that you can get through them and that you can come out on the other side better, and that joy doesn’t disappear and that grief and gratitude can coexist, well friend you’re doing and learning everything you need to know.

Everything may be wrong, but everything is also right. And most importantly friend, nothing is missing. The holidays are coming. I have so much faith in all the goodness that is going to be in the moments even with the hard stuff. So I’m excited to enjoy them with you. Keep me posted and send me pics in the DMs. I love to see what’s happening with you and my little internet nephews and nieces. So friend, let’s keep after it. We’re doing it together. And I’ll see you next week.

Read the transcript for this episode HERE.

In this episode, we chat about:

  • What it’s like celebrating your birthday and holidays when life around you has changed,
  • How my childhood experiences have been mirrored in my adult life,
  • Why the joy of giving is not enough for us friend, and
  • What to do this year if everything is wrong but nothing is missing
 
Resources and links mentioned in this episode:
  • Send me a DM on Facebook or Instagram
  • Record a voice message for me here
  • How YOU feel matters! Don’t miss the last episode with Dr. Paige!
  • I love reading your reviews of the show! You can share your thoughts on Apple here!
 
More about The Nicole Walters Podcast:

If you’re looking for the strategies and encouragement to pursue a life of purpose, this is the podcast for you! Week after week Nicole Walters will have you laughing hysterically while frantically taking notes as she shares her own personal stories and answers your DMs about life, business, and everything in between.

As a self-made multimillionaire and founder of the digital education firm, Inherit Learning Company, Nicole Walters is the “tell-it-like-it-is” best friend that you can’t wait to hang out with next.

When Nicole shows up, she shows OUT, so tune in each week for a laugh, a best friend chat, plus the strategies and encouragement you need to confidently live a life of purpose.

Follow Nicole on IG @NicoleWalters and visit inheritlearningcompany.com today and click the button to join our betterment community. Your membership gives you access to a world of people and tools focused on helping you build the life you want.

 

 

 

 

How YOU feel, matters.

How YOU feel, matters.

How YOU feel, matters.

Whenever we have a guest on the show you can bet it’s someone that is brilliant and has changed my life in some way! I love introducing you to these incredible people and I can’t think of someone who is more OUR people than Dr. Paige Gutheil.

In this episode we’re chatting with Dr. Paige about what you need to be living a life that is well rounded and fulfilling, a life that considers health but also grants grace and helps you to show up as the best version of yourself. We’re chatting about why how YOU feel matters!

Don’t miss this episode! Lean in and grab some paper because it’s a good one. Thanks for being here!

Nicole:
Hey, friend. So today, I know I always start off by saying I’m so so excited to chat. And I am. But this particular chat I wanted to come in and kind of do real time. So sometimes I do these and they are like a week or two right before before the time they actually go live to you. But this chat I wanted to do kind of real time. Now, just this past week, I have the joy of celebrating my 28th birthday. Now, I know that so many of you are like what, Nicole? That’s crazy. Oh my gosh, I can’t believe you’re 28. You look 25, and just playing with ya’ll.I am a woman of a certain age. However, I am grateful for the many years of life that God has given me. And this past week, I had the opportunity to celebrate my 38th birthday. And it was a really good one. And I wanted to talk about some of the emotions that went along with it and what it’s like to celebrate a birthday when your life has changed, because I think that holidays, often mark whenever you’ve experienced a lot of change. So it’s why whenever a holiday is coming, we argue with our family, you know, like, well, there’s so and so coming or are they bringing the girlfriend or you know, whose house are we having it at?

You know, a lot of the reason why we start having those types of triggered conversations is because holidays symbolize tradition, they symbolize formulas and the formulaic and the norm. And the thing that we often struggle to realize is that life on the other 364 days of the year is far from it. So it’s why come this time of year, you start having those arguments about who’s doing what, who’s bringing what, what does this look like, where are we doing it? And it’s because we all are basing it off of information from a year ago about how we used to do it. But what has happened between that year and now.

So we’ve been having a lot of chats here. And you know that in just the past year, so much has happened. I mean, I am in Los Angeles, which means that this is going to be my first very Christmasy Christmas because for me Christmas is pine trees and snow and all the Hallmark movie stuff and I’m dealing with palm trees, you know, and beaches and all the things that don’t quite associate Christmas to me, but, you know, it’s still Christmas, right? Because it’s not just about what the holiday looks like. It’s about a little baby Jesus, you know, so knowing that it’s just kind of a recalibration in my mind around that change. But the tougher part of it, is that having the holidays, you know, in this situation means that I’m thinking about what’s going to happen with the kids. Right? I have all my babies and I’m their mama and that’s great and we’re whenever we’re together we’re good, right? But just thinking about this is going to be my first holiday without my partner you know without my ex you know, my was-band and that is weird. It’s weird, friend. And that’s what I wanted to talk about today is what it’s like having to experience things that have always been mile markers of holidays and fun and family and festivity. And do it without a certain family member because we, you know, lost them because they passed or lost them because of time and change, or lost them by choice, because we knew that it just wasn’t time for them to continue into the next chapter with us and what that’s like.

So I can’t think of a better way to explain it. Because obviously, you know, this time of year, we’re going into Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, we’ve got these sort of pointed, consistent holidays that we’re all celebrating, including, you know, Hanukkah, Diwali, like all these Kwanzaa like all these different things. But for me, I also have a birthday. And I don’t know if other people tend to experience this but for me, birthdays are not what you see on social media. They are not “Hey, girl, it’s me season” or and the kids, they don’t even say season anymore. They say sZn. They’ve abbreviated it, the hip, Nicole the tick Dockers. So you know it’s me season or people are like, Oh, it’s my birthday month. You know, I just, I’ve never been that person as much as I have a big personality. And I love having fun. And you know, I’m excited and energetic when my birthday comes around y’all who the blues, it’s almost like maybe 48 hours before I start dreading it. And I can even feel my belly flipping talking about it. Now I start feeling it. And I don’t know if some of you guys relate to this. I know a lot of people don’t but you know, this is it’s just real for us weird ones out there, you know, that are feeling it. My belly starts to flip I start getting nervous and anxious about it. I start wondering, oh, gosh, are people gonna like know, how do I keep it quiet, I started dreading all the things that come with birthdays for me. So I’m not excited about how my phone’s going to ring off the hook, I’m gonna get tons of text messages, I start feeling awkward about oh, gosh, someone’s gonna find out, they’re gonna say happy birthday. And then I’m gonna have to respond and be like, Thank you, you know, I start dreading the attention, the awkwardness, and all the things that go along with birthdays.

And I know that sounds crazy, because you know, a birthday is supposed to be a celebration of you, it’s supposed to be a celebration of your life and the accomplishment and maybe even another mile marker. And so it’s not fun to talk about. Because on this day, we’re supposed to say we’re grateful for another year of life, and I am, you know, I am. And, you know, we’re supposed to be all it’s my day, it’s me, but you know, I’m a mama. So it’s rarely my day, at least 100%. You know, and or we’re supposed to be sprinkling wisdom all over and talking about, you know, all the things we’ve learned. And I have to tell you, I’ve tried all those things. But the truth is, I get birthday blues. And the reason I get them is it’s one of the many survival tools that I’ve hardwired into myself. I haven’t celebrated a birthday or had one celebrated with or for me, since I was about 10 years old. And some of that is from poverty. It’s because my parents just

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financially didn’t have the funds to really make a big to do have a birthday. And when you’re younger, you kind of understand that you don’t understand it completely. And you recognize and see your peers, you know, still having parties and gifts and things of that sort. And you kind of wonder why you don’t have them, even though you know that the means aren’t there, but you kind of just don’t quite understand why it doesn’t come together. And what happens is you start tempering your hope, you start minimizing your expectation.

So while everyone else is tossing confetti and throwing around well wishes, you just kind of start to want to hide under the covers until the day of disappointment has passed. Because it’s you know, there’s a tension and there’s awkwardness and there’s anxiousness. And there’s all these things that are happening that are the opposite of what you feel. And frankly, you may feel even a little embarrassed that you’re feeling them and you know, birthdays and holidays are historically just not about you. And this continued into adulthood for me. I can easily say for the past 10 years of my life, 10, 12, 15 years, I haven’t had a birthday celebrated with me or for me. I haven’t had Mother’s days or Christmases or you know the way the holidays went for me were essentially… I’m a big gift giver. So I’ve always been the gift giver. I was the celebrator. I’m the one who watches everyone open their gifts really eagerly and with excitement and I’m always the one who tries to remember even the tiniest mention if you just sneeze a little thought that you like something. I will register it and I’m like, I’m gonna I’m gonna swing back around and make sure they get that and I always want to take these tiny wishes and make them big realities. But I also learned with that, that I shouldn’t get my hopes up that somebody would do that for me. Because you know, if my own parents didn’t do it, I know y’all right now, especially my therapists who are listening are like, Ooh, girl, girl, I’ve worked through it, we’re about to get to the good part.

But I just want to let you guys know that in case you’re unpacking some of this, I really, I know, some of you right now are nodding your head like yes, like, my expectation, especially as a mom, our expectations gets so low, that someone’s going to care for us. Our expectations get so low. If you are the child of immigrants, if you are a minority, if you are a woman, we don’t even realize sometimes how low our expectations are and how we have learned to manage our hope around somebody taking care of us or showing us kindness or acknowledging us. And that is simply because it hasn’t happened enough, we’ve learned to convince ourselves that we don’t need it, because we aren’t expecting it and/or hasn’t been given even when it’s due. And so you basically stop getting our hopes up. So you don’t have to deal with a broken heart. But you don’t realize that you’re breaking your own heart first. And all this while, I know that I’ve grown to say that I’m satisfied with it. I’m okay being empty handed. And I’m okay being forgotten, right. Because what’s truly Christian-like and motherly, and a proud child of an immigrant who’s grateful and thankful is to look at everyone else and all the gifts that they’re opening and everything and just smile down on them saying their joy is my gift.

And I want to let you know that that’s true. It really is like, I am so happy to serve people and to love up on them but that’s only partly true. And it’s only partly true for me. And it’s only partly true for you, friend. I want and I deserve my own joy. You hear me? You do too, friend. You deserve your own joy. You deserve to celebrate yourself, right? That’s important, we should celebrate, we should clap for our own dang selves. That is an important thing we should do. But you deserve to be celebrated too. It’s not okay to sit there and watch everyone open a gift and nobody remembered you. It’s not okay for Mother’s Day to come and go and no one even said thank you. It’s not okay that people forgot your birthday, you matter and you deserve to not be forgotten. And it’s not just in the gifting. Frankly, it’s not even in how many people texted you or how many comments or likes you received. It’s not about the actual little quantifiable, countable actions. It’s about knowing that you deserve them one way or another.

The concern here is not so much that we live our lives, expecting gifts or wanting gifts and feeling like we’re lacking because we didn’t get them y’all nothing is missing. What matters is that you know that whether or not those gifts come, you deserve them. And the concern is convincing ourselves that we deserve to live without. I want you to know that this year, I woke up with the blues. Because I have less than before. But I also have more than I could ever imagine. Materialistically I mean, I’m still blessed, I have homes, I have items, you know, I have all those things. But man, divorce is hard. I don’t know what’s going to be here tomorrow. I don’t know what I’m going to have to work to get back. I don’t know what messages or emails are gonna pop up on any given day or you know, if my own heart is going to be broken, or if my kids hearts are going to be broken. I do not know what tomorrow will bring. But I do know that I still have a peace that surpasses all understanding. I do know that without fail, love is going to be there beside me. I do know that my babies are happy, healthy and whole. And I can tell you that the joy that I have is overwhelming. And the love abounds.

I have my three sweet girls and my dear Misterfella, right. And all my birthday my family and friends were buzzing my phone endlessly. And all of you showed up to in my DMs and in the comments saying happy birthday. And instead of me thinking for the very first time like this is awkward and I don’t know what to do with all this. And you know, it’s so nice to have all these internet friends you know, an internet Auntie showing this love. But what about the people closest to me? Well, the people closest to me showed me love too and I realized that with all the changes that had happened the holiday was better than before. God is so good y’all. And I want to let you know that for all of you who are coming into this holiday season, maybe dreading the auntie or the uncle that won’t be at the table or even more dreading the auntie or uncle that will be at the table, you know, or wondering if you can handle hosting this year or if you’ll be able to, you know, keep it together. While you remember the dish that doesn’t quite taste quite the same as when mom was here to make it.

And I want you to know that this year for my birthday, my new guy, Alex, he took me out. And it was a surprise and y’all I hate surprises. I hate surprises, because the awkwardness of it all like, what if I hate it? What if it’s no good. And you know, it’s the control freak in me. And he surprised me. And he took me out and there was dinner and a show and just activities and fun. And you know, he took me some place fancy and I was like, This is too fancy. And then he took me to pizza. And I mean it when I think about what it’s like walking down a Los Angeles City street eating a slice of pizza, and holding hands and thinking to myself a year ago, three years ago, I was sitting on a couch alone with a glass of wine, wondering if this is what the next 50 years would bring.

As much as everything is so deeply wrong. It’s wrong. From the picture of what I thought it’s not the table that I thought I’d have this Thanksgiving. And it’s not the home or roof that I thought I’d have over my head. And it’s not the hand that I thought I’d be holding. But you know, everything is so right. It’s so deeply right. It’s so aligned. It’s so exactly who I need to be today, in this moment, to get me to tomorrow, I’m learning what I need to learn to be the person that I need to be. And the same thing applies for you. If the only thing you learn in these difficult moments is that you can get through them and that you can come out on the other side better, and that joy doesn’t disappear and that grief and gratitude can coexist, well friend you’re doing and learning everything you need to know.

Everything may be wrong, but everything is also right. And most importantly friend, nothing is missing. The holidays are coming. I have so much faith in all the goodness that is going to be in the moments even with the hard stuff. So I’m excited to enjoy them with you. Keep me posted and send me pics in the DMs. I love to see what’s happening with you and my little internet nephews and nieces. So friend, let’s keep after it. We’re doing it together. And I’ll see you next week.

 

In this episode, Dr. Paige and I chat about:
  • What you need to be living a life that is well rounded and fulfilling,
  • How to determine what the “front bowling pins” are in your health,
  • When to grant yourself grace on a health journey,
  • Why how YOU feel matters, and
  • Dr. Paige’s 3 steps to improve your health
 
Resources and links mentioned in this episode:
 
More about The Nicole Walters Podcast:

If you’re looking for the strategies and encouragement to pursue a life of purpose, this is the podcast for you! Week after week Nicole Walters will have you laughing hysterically while frantically taking notes as she shares her own personal stories and answers your DMs about life, business, and everything in between.

As a self-made multimillionaire and founder of the digital education firm, Inherit Learning Company, Nicole Walters is the “tell-it-like-it-is” best friend that you can’t wait to hang out with next.

When Nicole shows up, she shows OUT, so tune in each week for a laugh, a best friend chat, plus the strategies and encouragement you need to confidently live a life of purpose.

Follow Nicole on IG @NicoleWalters and visit inheritlearningcompany.com today and click the button to join our betterment community. Your membership gives you access to a world of people and tools focused on helping you build the life you want.

 

 

 

Before the Divorce

Before the Divorce

Before The Divorce

Friend we’ve been having conversations in my DMs about starting over and how to position yourself to start over. I knew we needed to chat about that here – about embracing the difficult things in front of us and how to survive the process of starting over.

We’re chatting through the checklist I did before my divorce and what 3 things my therapist told me I’d need in my life post-break up. Friend I’m in a different spot now, still going through it, but have a few things to share to make this process potentially better for you.

Thanks for being here each week! Come connect with me on instagram @NicoleWalters. Talk soon friend.

Nicole:
Hey, friend, we have been having some pretty solid chats week over week but I also want to call out some of the great chats that we’ve been having in my DMs. And you guys have been sending me some awesome messages in my inbox. And I’m just so thankful for how supportive and kind and loving and vulnerable you all have been with me, I have had some conversations with you recently, as I’ve been sharing what starting over is like for me, both in divorce, but also in being a single mom, you know, because I have my kids full time and in starting over just sort of figuring out how I want to enter this world, in this new phase of my life.

And a lot of you have shared that you’re going through your own version of starting over, even if it’s just re entering the world post pandemic. And one of the questions that’s been coming into my inbox a lot this week, particularly after I’ve shared that I’ve, you know, met someone, and I’m kind of, you know, in a much better place, even though I’m still recovering and engaging with this divorce process. But what I wanted to share was the question that kept coming up, which is Nicole, like, how do I even position myself for a breakup? Right, not just a divorce, you know, but if I realized that I have a transitional season ahead of me that I need to move from where I am to where I want to be, what do I do? How do I even get to a place where I can make those moves, you know, whether it’s just acquiring the courage, but also acquiring the steps and things that I need to get to that next place.

And I wanted to touch base on that a little bit. And I think maybe later on in the season, I might tap a couple of my friends who can come on here and chat about some of those actual logistics that you need to have ready so that you’re able to prepare yourself, you know, not just for divorce, but literally like, you know, quitting your job or ending a friendship or anything of that sort. But I wanted to speak to some of the things that I was going through, and have gone through and am going through, you know, we’re gonna keep it real, you know, that really, you have helped me embrace this process. Because even though it’s a process that I did not want, and that caught me off guard, and that, you know, is unexpected, and not how I saw my life planning out at all. I have to embrace it, because it’s here. And it’s easier said than done and it

took me a while to be able to say that sentence. But I wanted to talk about that. How do we embrace the difficult things that are in front of us? And what tools do we need to actually be able to survive this process and even better thrive.

So friend, if you are thinking that you’re in a place where the relationship you’re in right now doesn’t serve you or your future, that’s the first step. The fact that you’re even saying to yourself, you know, what, I have questions about whether or not this is going to be all that I need it to be, so that I can be my best self. And what I found is that that is the first thing you have to reconcile and that question I’m telling you can take you years to answer. So if you’ve been wrangling with that, for the first year of your marriage, like I was all the way through for over a decade, or if it’s just something that’s come up in the past few months in the past few weeks, I want you to know that there’s nothing wrong with having that question. One, it doesn’t mean you’re gonna get a divorce. Make no mistake, I loved being a wife, I am a proponent of marriage. And I am not a quitter by nature. I wasn’t sure if I was in the right marriage early on. However, I was married for over a decade after that. And it wasn’t a not good marriage the entire time, whether it was the right fit marriage, you know, hindsight is 2020. But I do want you to know that I believe that sometimes having questions come up means that you’re able to target the things that you need to know to fix, to possibly be exactly where you’re supposed to be within the marriage.

As a matter of fact, you know, a lot of studies have shared that. If you have a relationship where you aren’t talking about problems, that’s a much bigger indicator that you will get divorced than a relationship where you actually are discussing your problems and having problems because it means that things are in the open. And we’re not being naive about the fact that things aren’t okay. So, so don’t sit there and think that just because you’re even considering what it would look like to make changes in your life, that you are headed for divorce, that may not be the case. But you do need to get answers for how you feel about that. So for me, it took years to get those answers. And that’s part of why it took me so long to actually be where I am today. I was experiencing different things within my marriage and I knew what they were but I always felt like maybe I could change them, which I think is you know, this is my own personal trauma, my own personal trigger and may resonate for some of you. I am such a fixer that is my nature you know call it control freak, call it you know, anxiety, you know, there’s lots of different manifestations of you know what it is I’m being candid about it because it doesn’t serve me too, to be shameful about the fact that I have those attributes. I see a problem, I see someone struggling, I see someone having hardship in their life and I am ferocious about providing solutions, to the point where I need to. And I have learned that I need to mind my business and let people fail sometimes, because that is the best way to serve them.

But in my marriage, it was really important for me whenever my partner would communicate that there was something that needed change, or fix or a struggle, or something of that sort, that I was doing what I could both from a proverbs 31 biblical standpoint, you know, to try to be that checklist of wife, but also engaging in therapy and, you know, moving homes and, you know, creating financial wealth and doing all the things that I thought might aid in creating a better environment. So that’s kind of the first piece, if you feel like there is a checklist of things that could be in the way of helping you really see your marriage for what it may be good and bad. Make a list and get those things out of the way. And the reason I say this is and understand and I should throw out a disclaimer here, I’m not speaking to a marriage or relationship that has physical violence. I’m not speaking to a marriage or relationship that has serious and massive addiction that is unchecked. I’m not talking about a marriage relationship that has severe emotional or financial abuse, or any type of child abuse or anything of that sort. Those are categorically and entirely intolerable. And you absolutely should seek support, there are domestic violence hotlines, you can speak to a peer, you can head to a fire station, you should get help, because those are not safe circumstances for your life and well being and you should leave immediately.

And I say that unwaveringly and without question, I know, it’s not easy to do. And I know it’s easier said than done but your life is worthy, and you are deserving. And if you are in a situation where you are feeling unsafe, and you make plans for what would happen to you, that means that you need to go to safety, just to have the mental clarity about the next steps. And that is something that you should pursue. Now what I’m speaking to is a marriage that is not emotionally or mentally fulfilling, and may still have elements of emotional abuse or elements of anger, or tantrums or mental instability, or narcissism or things of those sort, where there may be an incompatibility issue, or there may be an evolution issue where the relationship is just reaching its expiry, because you’re evolving into different people.

Or honestly, for some people not evolving, you know, that’s, that’s also a very real thing. So that checklist that I’m discussing, really, for me, what that was about speaking from my own experience was, I wanted to make sure that I had done everything. That if my partner came to me, you know, and said, Look, I don’t know about this marriage, I’m unhappy, that I’d be able to look them in the face and say, I got nothing left, I got nothing left. And I don’t know if this is the place that I need to be any more for my well being because I have done it all. And so that for me, that list included therapy that included making sure finances weren’t in the way because you know, the number two reasons that people get divorced is money and infidelity. So being faithful was important to me, as well as making sure that I, you know, that we weren’t worried about finances, you know, and that was something that, you know, wasn’t an issue in our relationship. So I knew that we weren’t arguing about the money. That wasn’t the problem, that you know, all of our needs, you know, in a material sense, at least were being met. So, and of our children as well.

So knowing this, you know, creating the time to be together, all those bullet points, you know, if you find yourself saying, Look, I haven’t really done a lot of these things to the best of my ability. Well, then the next question becomes, you know, well, what does it look like for me to have an ideal life outside of this marriage. And understand that these are all exercises you can do within this within where you are right now. Now, this part, I really, really, really want you to hear me out on. There is a fantasy outside of marriage that will not be a reality. Hear me, friend, the fantasy is not your reality. If you think that you’re going to get divorced, or break up or quit your job, and suddenly become a billionaire, and not have kids and lose all this weight, and finally start that

business and be a superhero. Those things could happen, but they’re not going to happen overnight. You will go down before you go up. You will experience hardship before you experience greatness. You will have a moment in the valley before you reach the mountaintop. And I want to let you know that you will survive all of those hard things because we do hard things well, because it is hard to be in that marriage. It is hard to be in that breakup. It is hard to be in that job. But it is also hard to start over. It’s about which one is fruitful. It’s about choosing the right hard for you. So I don’t want you to glamorize what you think this other world would be like. But also know that you should be honest with yourself about elements that exist there that you do not have.

So for me, when I found myself outside of my marriage, the one thing that I recognized that I had that was amazing and unexpected and priceless to me, even though there was so much that I felt like I’d lost, was peace. I had peace of mind, a peace that was inexplicable, a piece that felt God sent. A joy that was absolutely freeing. I didn’t have a worry or concern about what I’d be able to do in the future, because I felt limited by where I was. I had a peace of mind where I could rest easy knowing that ultimately, as complicated as things were, it would be okay. And for me, that was a tremendous thing where I said, I could never let this go again. That’s how I knew that, you know, moving forward would make sense for me, because I had peace.

After you’ve got a sense on, have I done the things for where I am, and after you get a sense of do I have an idea of where I’ll go, the next piece are just the steps. And I want to give these steps from my therapist, because she told me that there are three things you’re going to need to survive a divorce, if this is going to be the thing that is in front of you. And those three things were this. You’re going to need friends. I have to let you know that difficult relationships, oftentimes, especially if there are anything like mental health issues, or narcissism or emotional abuse, or any of those things that you may be encountering. They can be very isolating. So you’ll find yourself sort of going home and coming back or going to work and doing these things. And really, your family becomes all that you are. And you find yourself spending less and less time with friends, or maybe less time with close family members. And you realize that, you know, your world was very limited to where you were. And for me, I think it was surprising because the minute I found myself in a divorce situation, I was shocked at how much love was around me.

Oh, y’all, I truly did not realize how I wasn’t leveraging the love that God had already put into place. And I do not lack. I lack nothing, y’all in terms of love, and I am so grateful for it. Because I know that that is a true privilege and a blessing. I am surrounded by friends and family. Just abundant, abundant, abundant love. And I want to let you know that friends are a critical element of getting through this time. They will stand in the gap, they will tell you the truth, they will remind you who you are. Because in this season of transition, you will feel like you are losing sight of self. But it’s only because you’re losing sight of who you once were in a situation that did not serve you. So it’s not that you’re losing who you truly are, it’s that you’re stepping into who you will need to be. And your friends can help you be a compass towards that because they see you as your best self.

 

And so friends are a critical element to and frankly also they help with things like moving or giving you a break with the kids, or you know that phone call or a shoulder to cry on. And you know, my friends already know when I tell you I don’t think I could have gotten through this season without them. And I’m just so so blessed and so thankful for the friends that I have. Another thing you’re going to need without question is a great therapist. Now I know so many of you are like therapy is expensive. I don’t know if I can afford it. I want to let you know there are tools like openpathcollective.org. It is a online resource that helps you find us licensed and certified therapists that often work on a sliding scale sliding scale means that they can adjust their price point to your income meaning you can find therapists who are willing to have sessions with you for as little and I say little but I recognize that money is different for everyone and I want to honor that privilege that I have there. But $30 a session and I know $30 it used to be a tank of gas y’all but you know $30 isn’t a little bit of money. But when you talk about your health and well being being priceless you know it may be well worth spending.

Also if you have health insurance, even if it is a government resource health insurance, there often is a mental health and behavioral services that is an element of that as well that will give you a limited number of sessions you know around particular issues. If you are an employee of a company, there are health insurance benefits said are often there as enhanced benefits that can give you some access to mental health resources. But without a doubt, you know, friends and family are great, but they are not a licensed clinical therapist. And for me, being able to I’ve been in therapy for eight years, and I’m a big proponent of it, but you know, the things that I’ve required assistance with have shifted through the years. Childhood, business, parenting, but you know, in this and also my relationship, but you know, now I’m, I’m really in therapy for the first time as an adult to learn and grow and become who I am as an adult. And therapy has really helped me with that it’s given me language, to define some of the experiences that I’ve had in my relationship and outside my relationship that really has helped me shape my new relationship, not bringing those things in. And also shaped, you know, how I’m going to approach my future, you know, and the people around me.

So therapy is just a huge tool, because it’s such a journey with highs and lows, and you’re going to need it, and you’re going to need to embrace it, honestly. So so many people are in therapy, and oftentimes, we want to dictate how the process goes. And the best way to have effective therapy is to sit in it with humility, to be able to say, Listen, I’m here to grow. And I am here to accept. And I am here to learn. And that means sitting there and sharing a situation honestly as it is, and then allowing that conversation to organically develop in a way that allows you to hear difficult truths. Know that your therapist is never there to cause you harm. And your therapist is never there with an intention to say things that are deliberately going to cause you discomfort, because they want you to feel that. They’re there to be an insightful light based on their professional experience to help direct you to an understanding of self that can help you engage in the world in a way that is meaningful, fruitful and beneficial to you.

So, you know, if my therapist says something to me, where I’m like, Oh, girl, what are you trying to attack me on today, you know, I’m able to say to myself, you know, because I really love and engage in therapy, and I really want to be my best self. Oh, if I’m feeling some type of way about that, that means that she hit on something that I really need to embrace and unpack, you know, and I say that like, oh, that made me feel a feel, I think I need to unpack that. And so you know, therapy is tremendous. And you will need some sort of clinical support. It’s a real must to help get through this time.

And then the last thing that my therapist said you need after friends and therapy is faith. And you guys know I’m a God girl. I say that, you know, clearly and it means that I am accepting because Jesus is and it means that I am loving of you as you are where you are LGBTQIA every letter, every color, every faith, you name it, the alphabet, I love every single interview from your nose to your toes, unwaveringly, as you are. I support you as well. But it also means that I am very clear on the calling of my life and who I answer to and who I belong to. And my faith is driven by the Lord. And I’m so so grateful, because I’ve seen and experienced things that have transformed me, including during this process. And, and I can tell you that having faith, whatever that means for you, even if that’s faith in the future, or a manifestation process, I obviously am a proponent for Christianity, because it’s a language that I understand. But I don’t want to limit the journey that you’re on with your faith and understanding of the world and your experience of it. And I want you to know that having faith means that you are able to have belief outside of self that things can work in your favor.

I really want you to hear me when I say that. It’s critically important when it feels like the chips are down, that you have belief that things will work in your favor outside of yourself. If you think that the world only works, your favor, someone does something for you. Or if you are dependent on another situation, or that you feel fundamentally incapable of good things coming forth. It’s really hard to find the happy in the hard. And you deserve to have that happy. Frankly, you’re going to need it if you’re going through any type of transition or breakup, work career, marriage, you name it. And so having faith at least for me, knowing that after I’ve done everything I can when I rest my head that God’s got it, no matter how it turns out, y’all, I could end up, actually I’m not even gonna speak this over my life. Listen, like I the worst of the worst could happen to me and as long as I have God, my babies and my health, I have everything and having that faith keeps me fueled. It gives me the fuel to keep going, for my babies, for my business for our friendship here. And I want to let you know that I’m not a perfect Christian, Lord knows I’m a hot mess. I’m not perfect in my practice of faith. I don’t always make it to church, sometimes I’m in the balcony, I’m definitely in the overflow parking lot. And you better believe it’s late service. I’m definitely the type of Christian who says a cuss word who, you know, does all the things that we’re supposedly not supposed to do, but he loves me just the same. And I want you to know that faith has truly been something that I’ve embraced and leaned into, you know, especially on those hard days when I just don’t understand how things are playing out. And I don’t know why I am where I am. Faith has really kept me going.

And so friend, I just wanted to have this one to one chat with you, because so many of you have been in my DMs and so we’ve been talking about it, you know, Nicole, how do I know if it’s right to go? How do I know if I need to say how do I get the courage because I know I need to go?

How do I do it? I just want you to know that I’m gonna say the same thing to each of you and I want to say it here today. You are good enough friend, if you stay. You are good enough friend, if you go and it’s going to be hard to stay and it’s going to be hard to go. You just have to choose your hard.

Friend, you are deserving. You are worthy. And you are so so capable of doing hard things well. If nothing else, borrow my belief until you find your own.

 

 
In this episode, we chat about:
  • The checklist I did before my divorce,
  • What 3 things my therapist told me I’d need in my life post-break up, and
  • Why I know you’ll survive this
 
Resources and links mentioned in this episode:
  • Learn more about Open Path Collective Therapy HERE
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  • Record a voice message for me here
  • Don’t miss our last chat with Nischelle Turner!
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